Posted by: brianc74 | October 18, 2011

Looking for Star Wars Guild


So I’ve been playing RIFT a lot lately. In fact, I have two level 50s already and two level 49s. I’m halfway to 50 on my mage and about a bar into 49 on my warrior. Obviously I haven’t done much in the way of endgame and to be honest I’m not sure how much I want to do.

I’m a little disappointed as I picked up this game to still hang out with friends who were anywhere from excited to gung-ho about it. I was always leaning on the meh fence. Now I find I rather enjoy the game, but that’s probably in large part due to me avoiding any kind of organized grouping. I tried one daily raid rift and it went OK, but I’m told those are really easy and designed for random pugs.

What I’m really looking forward to is Star Wars: The Old Republic! I’ve always loved Star Wars. I grew up on it! I was three years old when the first one came out. I can remember dropping my Milk Duds in the theater and having them roll down the aisle while watching Empire.

What’s unfortunate is that it doesn’t appear that many in my current guild will end up playing this game. Mach’s not really a Star Wars fan and intends to keep playing RIFT. Zeren is in the beta, and although he enjoys the gameplay he’s ticked off at the lore. Says it’s messed up or something. Not sure what he means when this game’s lore is building off a lot of past lore and takes place 3,000 years before Darth Vader so even history could have gotten things wrong in that time frame, but I think it has something to do with a change to SW:KotOR. I don’t know about Cinnia, but if Zeren plays I figure she will. Andy has already pre-ordered so he’s the only one confirmed other than myself. No one else has really said one way or the other.

In short, not much in the way of a potential Star Wars guild. So I’m out looking. I’m going to be picky too. Let’s just say that WoW really turned me off to a lot with regards to MMOs and the popularity of Star Wars is only increasing my concerns about the game. RIFT has been quite well behaved for an MMO and I attribute that to the lower subscription numbers. Granted I avoid endgame so my view is quite possibly skewed.


Here’s a brief rundown of what I’m looking for followed by a lengthier explanation for anyone interested:

  • Faction: Sith
  • Class/Role: Unknown, leaning towards a DPS class
  • Guild Type: Casual
  • Server Type: Leaning towards PvE, but seriously considering PvP for Sith
  • Server Zone: Eastern
  • Goals: Leveling multiple toons, questing, some PvP, possibly raiding, and definitely figuring out how to make a lot of credits or whatever amounts to currency is in this game

What I Know About The Game

I know it’s supposed to be SW:KotOR 3 thru 9. I loved the first one and enjoyed the second! I’ve forgotten almost all of the story of those two games and would probably play them again, but my XBox can barely play games now.

I’ll be honest I have purposely avoided any and all information regarding this game for two reasons. First, until release date it’s all subject to immediate change. Second, I’m actually looking forward to not knowing!

The one disappointing thing looks to be no Yoda race. Seriously? Yoda’s evil twin?! Obviously there would be a shortage of those in game if available… Actually are there even race selections in this game? I have no idea. LOL!


Sith. I’ll probably play both, but I’ll focus on Sith first. Why? First, I’ve always played the “good guys” and want something different. Second, there’s a small part of me that believed in the “Blizzard loves the Horde more!” mentality. I can’t help but wonder if it’ll be same with BioWare and Sith. Finally, I just think there will be more jerks on the Sith side and I’d rather not be on the receiving end of the lightsaber. Granted this only really applies to a PvP server, which I can’t believe I’m actually considering.


No idea. I really enjoyed healing in WoW, but I eventually reached burn out when the content started to get boring and I “had” to go because there were no other healers to replace me. That kind of obligation took its toll rather quickly. So I am definitely leaning towards DPS. Tanks fall in the same category as healers and let’s face it DPS are a dime-a-dozen. I’ve always leaned towards ranged because I’ve had trouble with melee, but…lightsabers…close combat…aw crap!

Guild Type: Casual or Hardcore

Considering my last blog was Casual Hardcore this is a rather amusing topic for me. I will probably devote 3 hours/day and possibly more on the weekends to this game; at least at the beginning when everything is shiny and new. To some this is a lot and a drop in the bucket to others. And for some that’s a definition for the casual/hardcore debate. That’s why this topic cracks me up. It’s too subjective.

I want casual though. Casual casual probably. For me casual isn’t a definition of time. It’s a definition of play style. I posted a LFGuild post on the SW forums and got a lot of responses like “…we’re casual, but we take raiding seriously…” which made me nervous.

Why? Because I’m not going to spend hours memorizing spell names, cooldowns, hit caps, or how attribute A affects spell Q. If it means I’m not the best or that I don’t use the most widely accepted specs, then so be it. I will not spend hours trying to figure out how to eek out a few more points in dps. I honestly have better things to clutter my brain with like “Who would make a great Power Girl in a movie?”

Guild Atmosphere

I want a group of friends who are more interested in playing together than downing bosses, raiding, pvping, being the best, or “winning”. I want a guild that understands winning is simply to have fun. This is more easily accomplished in a small guild which I prefer.

I like guilds that hang out on Vent to talk about the game and even real life on occasion. I will not contribute a lot until I’m comfortable around people. But I will sit and absorb everything I hear making snap judgments about people living in their parents’ basement and unhealthy aversions to sunlight. 😛

As a…cough…thirty-something…hey I’m not 40…yet…I’d prefer a slightly older crowd or a family oriented one. I don’t mind kids in guild as long as they’re well behaved. When I talk kids I’m talking late teens and early college year kids. Apparently I’ve forgotten what it was like to be that age, because I don’t understand the absolute need to prove themselves to everyone; even strangers on the internet. A general observation and not always accurate as I’ve had bad experiences with 40 year old drama queens too.

I’m not opposed to profanity, as I have a rather unclean mouth myself when playing games like Call of Duty (which upsets my wife to no end and my kids tell me I’m grounded), but I would prefer a guild that controls themselves. I don’t like seeing the F-bomb every other line in guild chat. It’s one thing to say it when things go wrong in a fight or whatever. It’s another to say it every other word. If profanity is a frequent thing, then you’re not the guild for me. As an officer I got in a big old argument with a guy once to the point where I had to gkick him after several refusals to cut back. We had kids in the guild. His argument was that’s what the profanity filter was for. I said that’s what the guild rule was for.

I also don’t want racial slurs of any kind. I just don’t see the need for it. Yes, I’ve heard the arguments that blacks can use the N word, because they mean it differently than others, but bottom line is I don’t like it. My brother-in-law is black and so my 8 nieces and nephews are half-black, quarter-japanese, and quarter-white. I have cousins that married Hispanics. I have a very diverse family and I’ve never really thought about any of them in those terms until now.  As Depeche Mode said “People are people”.

And since people are people this would also apply to other items like political beliefs, sexual orientation, and religion. Hey, you’re a Democrat? That’s OK! We all make mistakes! 😛 But seriously, if you’re gay what real impact does that have on me? If you’re a Muslim, does that make me less of a Christian? Have you somehow made me less than what I am by your beliefs, lifestyle, or personality? No, so there’s no reason to look down on people that don’t think the way I do or aren’t like me. Leave the sensitive topics to private and limited chats, not guild chat.

Server: PvP vs. PvE vs. RP

I lean towards PvE only because when questing I like to be left alone. However, PvP has its perks. But I suck at PvP and always wanted to get better. Since I intend to play Sith, there is a role-play attraction to ganking Jedi on a PvP server. If I’m on a PvE server, I would like a guild that PvPs some. They don’t have to be good. They don’t have win. I’d just like a group that has fun with it. Winning and being good at it are bonuses. This goes for a PvP server guild too.

I’m not really into RP. I don’t have to speak in “thee’s” and “thou’s” to immerse myself into something. My toons are an extension of me and as such I’m automatically immersed. So it begs the question as to whether I really want to be a woman because I play a lot of female toons…


Because of my past experience with raiding guilds I don’t know what I want from endgame. I know I’ll probably want to experience it to a degree. Right now I’m looking at one night a week for probably no more than 2-3 hours. Hey I have a life at home. This might go against what I said above about my play time, but that play time is often interspersed with random afk’s because of kids, wife, dinner, etc. Raiding isn’t conducive to random afk’ing. Setting aside one night is doable. Most likely after 8pm Eastern.

My In Game Goals

A list of goals in no particular order:

  • I want to level multiple toons. I’m told the stories vary to a certain degree based on classes and factions. I’ll probably experience them all eventually.
  • I want to do a little PvP and would love to have someone teach me some of the nuances. But you know what they say about teaching an old dog…
  • I want to try raiding and see what happens. Maybe I can up the raiding to two nights per week.
  • I want to work on random achievements. I like those. As stupid as it is I actually play a little game where I compete against others to see how many points I can get. It’s stupid, but it gives me something to do.
  • I want to get rich. I did it in WoW. I want to do it in SW. This is definitely a game I like playing! Currency = score.
  • Play the game with no commitments. There’s nothing like logging in and not feeling obligated to do anything in particular!

Anyway, this is the basics. Everything is subject to change as time goes on and the actual game experience is in front of me. But it would be great if I had a guild I thought fit at the start. If not, solo it is and I’m OK with that too.


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